I’ve called thousands of sales leads over the years. I’ve also worked with over 1,400 painting companies and seen their sales process with job leads. I’ve discovered that some companies have a WAY higher closing rate than others. Some companies will literally sell eight jobs out of 10 leads. Others will MAYBE close one job out of 10 leads.
What’s the difference?
What the Best Painting Companies Do
The difference is in the process. I’ve observed some best practices that top performing painting companies do over and over to get amazing results with any lead service, not just ours.
If you try just a few of these best practices, you will ABSOLUTELY get better results from your leads.
1. Call the leads IMMEDIATELY
This is so important. Don’t even wait 10 minutes to call a new lead, call it NOW. There are usually other companies calling the same lead, so if you don’t call it quickly, they’ll get to the customer first. Homeowners LOVE a company that calls promptly and shows genuine concern for their project.
2. Leave a Professional Voicemail
If they don’t answer the first time, don’t chain call them. We’ve noticed a lot of companies will literally scare the homeowner away by calling them four times in a row. This is not professional and it looks desperate. Just leave a quick voicemail and try them again later in the day. I’ve had a lot of success with this simple voicemail:
“Hi John, this is Chandler from Curb Appeal Painters. I was calling about the five bedrooms you’d like painted. I’d love to learn a little bit more about your project and provide you a free estimate. We have a special on interior work right now that can save you some money as well, so please call me back when you get a chance. Talk to you soon, thanks John!”
Hidden gems about this voicemail:
- I mention their project SPECIFICALLY (5 bedrooms). That way the homeowner knows I’m providing a custom quote for their specific needs.
- I’m very upbeat on the voicemail so a homeowner can sense my enthusiasm for their project. If you sound unprofessional or bored, people will simply not call you back.
- I mention a special. People love getting a deal, so I let them know we have a discount on their type of work (interior). ALWAYS offer some sort of discount or deal. This is a proven method to getting more business, and getting more call-backs.
3. Set up an Estimate (once you get hold of the customer)
This is a simple script I’ve used to set up HUNDREDS of successful estimates (which I later booked):
Me: Hi John, this is Chandler from Curb Appeal Painters calling about painting your five bedrooms?
Homeowner: Yes! Thanks for calling Chandler, I was looking to get five of our bedrooms done and maybe the entryway as well.
Me: Great! I’d love to set up an estimate with you so I can look at the project, when would it work for you to meet with me?
Homeowner: I’m off this Thursday afternoon, could you swing by then?
Me: How about Thursday at 3pm?
Homeowner: That works!
Me: Great! What’s the address?
Homeowner: It’s 123 Lowell Street.
Me: Awesome! I have you in my planner for 3pm at 123 Lowell St. So I have just a couple questions about your project. Are you changing colors in the five rooms you’re looking to paint?
Homeowner: Yes, I’d like to freshen it up a bit, so I’m looking at a couple of different color combos.
Me: Ok great, and I’ll bring my color wheel to give you some ideas as well. Is there anyone else in the home that will have input on the colors you’d like to use?
Homeowner: Yes, my wife Andrea.
Me: Great, will Andrea also be available to help with colors on Thursday?
Homeowner: Yep, she’ll be around.
Me: Great! Do you and Andrea know roughly when you’d like to start the project?
Homeowner: We’re thinking sometime in May.
Me: Ok, we still have a couple openings in May so that should work out nicely.
Also, we have a 10% discount on interior work going on now, so assuming you’re happy with our price and quality, we’ll be able to save you some money along the way.
Homeowner: Always good to hear!
Me: Great! Well I really appreciate your time John, and I look forward to meeting with you and Andrea on Thursday! I’ll give you a call Wednesday night just to check in and double-confirm our appointment, but if you need anything in the meantime, please give me a call.
Homeowner: Thank you Chandler, I’ll see you Thursday, goodbye!
Me: Sounds good John, Goodbye!
Key Gems from the Call:
- Enthusiasm (but not phony enthusiasm). You’ll notice I have a lot of exclamation points in this script. It’s because I’m smiling and upbeat when I’m talking with the homeowner. People can sense enthusiasm over the phone. Nobody wants to book with someone who sounds tired or unmotivated.
- Tailor the call to their project: You’ll notice how I’m very specific about their “five-bedroom project” because I want them to know it’s going to be a custom quote, and not just a run-of-the-mill estimate that I provide to anyone and everyone. People need to know you care about THEIR project.
- I ASSUME the estimate. A lot of painting contractors won’t even get an opportunity to bid the estimate because they ASK to setup the appointment instead of ASSUMING the appointment. You’ll notice I don’t ask if they’d like an estimate, I assume they’re getting an estimate and go right into scheduling. It’s amazing how many painters lose business by giving the homeowner a chance to say “no thanks, I kind of just wanted a ball park price over the phone”.
- I ask questions. Too many painters just talk AT a homeowner thinking they’re selling them. You have to ask questions and LISTEN to their answers. Often times they will bring up their main concerns with just simple questions like what colors or when they need work done. Then you’ll know what to address at the estimate. Asking questions also starts to form a relationship with the customer that will eventually lead to the sale.
- I ask about other people who are involved in the decision. Once you get to the estimate, it’s SO IMPORTANT to have all decision-makers there. Otherwise you will almost always get this response when you ask for the job: “Well, I have to discuss it with my wife/husband”. This is one of the hardest objections to get over, so make sure everyone that has a say is at the estimate.
- I mention a special. I let them know that we’ll have a discount for them “assuming they like my price and quality”. This is a really good way to get the homeowner already thinking about booking with you. I’m so assumptive that we’ll be doing business together that THEY assume we’re doing business together.
- I say “We have a couple openings”. It’s important to be busy. Homeowners want to know that other people are also using your services. It’s like going to a restaurant with an empty parking lot – why is no one else eating here? Any time homeowners can see your services are in demand is a plus.
- Confirmation Call. I let them know I’ll be touching base a day before to double-confirm. This shows you’re professional, and then once you actually call them the day before, it’s another chance to build a relationship. It also shows you’re on top of your business. Oh yeah, and you’ll have fewer no-shows.
This script is not perfect, but it works really well if you hit the main points. There will always be some variations in the call that you’ll have to adjust to, but the call should be simple and considerate of people’s time.
4. Use Email and Text Templates
Some of our most profitable painting companies use email and text templates that auto-send to new leads. This is effective because you’re using all forms of communication to reach the customer: Phone call, email AND text. You can’t sell the customer if you can’t reach them.
It’s a good idea to have a very professional email template pre-written with attached testimonials or pictures of your work. It’s a way of providing references before the customer even asks (and to show them how awesome your work is).
5. Good Follow-Up
You won’t always reach someone the first time you call, so it’s very important to have an organized follow-up process.
Companies that do the best with our leads continue to follow up with homeowners for weeks, sometimes MONTHS after they’ve received a lead.
Too many contractors give up on a lead too early and lose the job, while the good companies continue to call and win the job.
Again, you don’t want to pester a customer, but reasonable follow up will get you more jobs than the competition and show the homeowner you’d like to earn their business.
Sometimes people just get busy and push their project off, but if you’re the only one still calling months later, chances are YOU’LL be the one they hire.
6. Organize Your Leads
Get a CRM system (Customer Relationship Management). CRM’s are great for organizing all your potential customers. We use a fairly basic CRM and it ABSOLUTELY helps our sales, and it keeps us organized.
It allows us to keep track of all our potential customers and follow up with them when we say. This goes very far in the eyes of the customer and it’s amazing how many painting contractors don’t use them.
Here’s what NOT to do with new leads:
- Don’t wait to call them.
- Don’t blow up the homeowner with numerous calls.
- Don’t have an unprofessional voicemail recording.
- Don’t give up on a lead after only a day or two.
- Don’t just provide a price. Set up an estimate and review the estimate WITH the customer (don’t email it later).
Conclusion:
This guide is just about setting up the leads into estimates, but the actual estimate is a whole other animal. I won’t go into all the details that make up a good estimate, but If you’d like some tips that we use for our own estimates, please contact us.
Thanks for reading, and I hope this has been helpful!
Chandler Zieg,
PainterChoice
29 Comments
I would like to get the tips on the estimate formats that you use for your estimates.
Iam a contractor, need more info on industrial bidding and commercial bidding on jobs
Hi Warren, we don’t have any guideline on commercial/industrial bidding yet. If there’s anything else we can help with, please let us know! Thank you!
Good stuff
I was reading all your knowledge about how to get more leads I am painter trying to star up a painting business I need help please contact me back thanks
Been painting for 20 yrs. Past 7 for myself basically maintaining a 3-4 crew team each crew with 3-5 people (can’t say men because i have 4 female painters). The female crew believe or not are my A-team, seem to have better eye for details. Ive always charged $1.50-$3 a sq ft with everyone happy with our prices. My company will never be fortune 500 with that but thats fine. My employees can feed their familys, company can stay in business and i can retire at 110. 😀 The bumps in the road nowadays are average prices are $.70-$1.25. Homes i would get $4,000 for are now paying $1,400 and thats including materials. I get the very best prices available through SW and even with my discount materials run $700-$800. The remaining funds won’t even pay my prep crew for 1 week. Anyone have advice for an “old school painter about to turn grocery bag boy”?
Hi Josh, we hear this a lot. Painting companies feel like they have to lower their standards to keep competitive pricing. We’ve found with our national companies (doing roughly $5 million in revenue) that this is not necessarily true. In fact, we’ve RAISED our pricing over the last couple years, and sold MORE work. We’ve also helped over 30,000 homeowners find a reliable painter and noticed that people usually choose the middle bid. A lot of homeowners are actually scared by a bid that’s too low. The key to protecting your pricing is making sure the homeowner truly understands the quality of your work and materials. The homeowner needs to understand that they will end up paying more in the long run by hiring poor quality work. I used to say during my bids, “You can pay $1,500 to paint your house but you’ll have to paint it again in 3 years. Or you can pay $3,000 to paint your house and have it last 10 years.” We recommend not devaluing your service, Josh. If you can effectively explain your quality and your price to a potential customer, you don’t need to compete with the low-ballers.
Thanks! I would like some help with estimate tips and sq on painting
Hi Brendon, we have a helpful article here which should help your bidding process. Thanks!
If your warranty is only 2 years how does your paint job last 10 years and how do you apply or offer a maintenance program or a warranty follow up? Thanks to everyone looking forward to improving and your feedback. Much Appreciative, Derek
Hi there,
My husband and I are starting a painting business. My husband is the painter (10 yrs experience) and I will do the office work ( 0 yrs experience in painting). Does your program go into how to run the office?
Hi Olivia,
The Painting Business Pro training course does not necessarily include running an office because you shouldn’t have an office to run until you have a very large company. In fact, our painting company didn’t have an office or an office manager until we hit over $1.5M in annual revenue.
The program will teach you every single step you need to take to start and build this business. You can learn all about the program and what is included HERE.
If you have any other questions, you can contact Eric directly: [email protected]
whats a good message to leave them after you send them a quote, email and you want to leave them a professional message regarding if they have reached a decision on the quote you submitted?
Hi Ivette, good question. I usually just keep it simple, or work in another discount if they’re able to paint during a time that helps my schedule. For example:
“Hi Ivette, this is Chandler from Painter Choice, I wanted to see if the 3rd week in September would work for you? We just had an opening and it would help us out if we could paint your house during that time. We could knock another 5% off your price if that works. Let me know, thanks!”
Hi, I am a professional painter of over 45 years in the field. My only problem is that I am deaf and wear a hearing aid. But cannot hear over the phone. I speak fairly well but I am looking for someone to be my ears for me when obtaining leads for potential jobs. I only do interior painting. Do you people have a way for me to contact leads by text and or email? Thank you
Hi Kenneth, when we send a lead, you get their phone number and email, so many of our successful contractors call, text and email the homeowners. So that could certainly be an option for you. Actually reaching the customer over the phone is probably the most effective way to setup an appointment and eventually sell the job, but texting and emailing can also be very effective.
Hello, thanks for the videos!!! I’m a painter and never been much of a salesman. But I feel I’m really bad at picking up the initial call and I lose a few jobs a year, at least. It’s usually like
– “Hello, my name is John. I got your # from a friend and I was looking to get some painting done”
At this point, I feel like I never have a good response and I feel like I lose customers because of this. Do you have any recommendations on how to respond to this type of call? I like to pick up the call instead of letting go to voicemail and returning the call later. But any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
Hi Joel, I totally understand. My first calls were beyond terrible, but after making several thousand, I’ve gotten much more fluid and conversational. People always wonder what exactly to say, but if you listen first and really find out what the customer needs the conversation will happen naturally. In the meantime, feel free to use this script; you can just pick it up after the intro if a customer calls you directly.
How to apply The CRM you use for scheduling and follow ups is there links/ programs/ Apps you recommend? Thanks a ton. All the best!
Hi Derek, we don’t recommend any CRM in particular. We use Amocrm because it’s pretty simple. You can always use more complicated crms like salesforce if you like. We prefer simplicity.
Hi Erick,I’ve been working as a painter for more than 10 years on February of this year, I opened my own business, now I am a painter contractor. Would you be able to help me out in California?
Hi Florencio, we do get job leads in California. Someone will reach out to you shortly, thank you
i have to get my company new clients we are the estimators so how can i convince them to give us an opportunity and to send us their blueprints.
Great article, thanks for sharing such an informative and interesting article for me. Keep it up.
this may be a stupid question, but why should I not email the estimate details after? (especially if I’m clear that it’s an estimate and not a quote)
I was called to run a paint Company. I have never been in the paint business before and as I placed my focus on the company I had NO doubt this was something I could do. I hit the street, calling old customers for referral, calling old customers for additional work, calling old quotes and before my first week was over I had a pipeline I generated well over $100k. Started my first exterior paint job for $30k. The Hyick residents. Since coming to work for the company myself and a partner offered to purchase the business from the wife of the owner who passed away tragically. She made us an offer and we now own the business. That was 10 months ago and we are debt free. The reason I say this is to say thank you to this site. I referenced this site and staff often. The resources are a direct reflection of our success during trying economic times. We are thriving! Thank you Painting Pros!!
Hey Bradley really glad to hear it! We love helping out!
Hi there,
Fantastic script you put on here. We have just changed our CRM system and I’ve been looking for the best sales process to land the bookings to deliver the estimate and another sales process to follow up on bids that don’t sign on the spot. I switched CRM systems so I can manage the sales process with my estimators. After reading your script, I would love to see if you can help me.
I agree that, as a homeowner, I would love a company that called me promptly. That is the kind of service I want to pay for. Someone who will call me and get the job done exactly how I want it.
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